Extra “See-Noticed Impact” with Tesla FSD 12.5.3

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I wrote the opposite day about Tesla “Full Self Driving” (FSD) reportedly getting a lot better with the 12.5 replace. As I defined in that piece, I usually don’t go by what different individuals are saying on this as a result of my historical past with doing that was huge disappointment and a tremendously totally different expertise with FSD after I used it. Nonetheless, on this case, there appeared to be broad and goal reward for the replace. Additionally, Tesla has determined to delay updates on older Teslas with out the newest FSD {hardware}, and my 2019 Mannequin 3 doesn’t have the newest {hardware}. So, I’m going to be delayed testing the newest variations of FSD myself.

Whereas preliminary reviews on FSD 12.5 appeared constructive, one other consumer offered a brief overview that appears to deliver us again to that “see-saw impact” concept I put on the market years in the past and Elon Musk lately confirmed. This FSD consumer and CleanTechnica reader famous:

“5.3 is far worse than 5.2. On 5.3 it’s misplaced the flexibility to deal with freeway entrances and exits. On entrances its tremendous hesitant, gotten a number of offended horns because it simply sits there. On exits, it needs to drive proper previous them. The nav voice is aware of that it’s an exit, the automotive has gotten over to the suitable hand lane so it was making ready for an exit, however when it will get to the exit it tries to drive previous it forcing you to take over. It additionally mishandled a merge the place it was presupposed to get onto the freeway, it tried to take an exit as an alternative of. 5.2 was dealing with these conditions accurately. Hope 5.4 exhibits up quickly.”

Once more, that is one consumer’s expertise. This isn’t everybody’s essentially taking place to everybody, and we don’t know if it’s frequent or uncommon. Nonetheless, it’s a transparent signal that we’ve received one other case of “2 steps ahead and 1 step again,” or one thing like that. It’s additionally a case of, “what the heck occurred?” Why did the newest replace instantly trigger this drawback?

Due to how a lot FSD has improved this yr, I’m a bit extra bullish on Tesla’s method once more. However I proceed to be involved concerning the see-saw impact, particularly because of how Tesla is enhancing FSD — with neural nets and machine studying. Whereas Waymo’s progress is far slower in some regards, it appears the extra particular, directed, targeted growth course of helps to keep away from such issues — in addition to the broader {hardware} suite.

And that brings us again to my be aware on the prime. I’ve seen another FSD customers in my case getting fairly upset that they’re now not receiving the FSD updates as a result of they don’t have the newest FSD {hardware}. With this sort of factor, I’m sometimes not that bothered, however on this case, the guarantees round this made so a few years in the past make all of it rather less forgivable. Elon Musk didn’t promise a date for robotaxis again in 2016, as some folks declare, however he did say the {hardware} put in vehicles on the time could be all of the {hardware} wanted for robotaxi functionality, whereas additionally displaying estimates of gross revenue per mile and gross revenue per yr from a Tesla robotaxi. Nonetheless, by 2019, he began predicting such robotaxi functionality by “subsequent yr.” In my humble opinion, anybody shopping for a automotive from then on, and particularly going again to these 2016 statements and presentation, was “duped” by these statements. Now, a few of these patrons are getting fairly upset, and much more so with FSD updates now not rolling out to them after they roll out to Tesla homeowners with newer FSD {hardware}.

My 2022 Tesla Mannequin S Plaid has FSD and is now price $100k to $200k in line with @elonmusk. Need to purchase it? https://t.co/ZiOgvT66Sy

— Miss Jilianne (@MissJilianne) August 23, 2024

Dangle a carrot, inform them they’ll eat it “subsequent yr” and watch them imagine it. pic.twitter.com/BPZnpJQG19

— Miss Jilianne (@MissJilianne) August 22, 2024

Tesla Cultists get up, the brand new FSD doublethink is that you just’re presupposed to imagine that @ElonMusk by no means stated that Mannequin 3s would make their homeowners cash as robotaxis!

Everyone will need to have imagined it. If solely there was a video displaying what Elon promised Mannequin 3 patrons: https://t.co/b5GPYrhKmt pic.twitter.com/VVeTTdvms4

— Dan O’Dowd (@RealDanODowd) August 21, 2024

When will the Tesla Full Self-Driving Software program I paid $15,000 for truly make my automotive Full Self-Driving?

— Miss Jilianne (@MissJilianne) August 21, 2024

There are a collection of points above right here, so let me simply summarize with a bullet listing:

• Tesla FSD 12.5.3 has made notable enhancements in line with some public testers, nevertheless it has additionally made some odd steps backward.
• Tesla homeowners with newer vehicles and the latest FSD {hardware} are actually getting updates a lot ahead of others (and this was introduced earlier by Elon Musk). That stated, everybody within the US with FSD {hardware} constructed into vehicles since mid-2019 ought to nonetheless be getting these updates in time.
• There’s rising concern that claims about robotaxi {hardware}, coming robotaxi progress, and potential for robotaxi business service and income had been all not simply overly optimistic however wildly off the mark and probably even very deceitful.

We’ll proceed masking the story as extra updates, information, and opinions come out, as we now have performed since 2015.